Notices by futurile (futurile@mastodon.social)

@dthompson WHAT did we do before this? *boggle*

@jakehamilton @luis_felipe I think it's going to make it difficult at #fossdem. How do we differentiate one group of "Geeks" from the other sets, groups etc.

Though I do like the sound of "A murder of Geeks"

Online #guix social this Friday 22nd. We'll do patch reviews and general Guix chat. Want to learn more about the #nix approach, but love #scheme and #lisp - this is the #linux #distro meetup for you!

See the #libreplanet wiki for details and links to the Meetup:

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/PatchReviewSessions2024

Times are:

18:00 UTC/ London
19:00 CET/Paris
14:00 EST/New York

Subscribe to the Wiki/meetups for updates, or join directly:

https://meet.jit.si/london-guix-meetup

@fabionatali

#fridayfun #freesoftware #development

@civodul

Guix solves the technical issue. Real transactions.

At scale and with general users any form of state will kill you eventually. Push an upgrade out to 50 million users and you'll always see a percentage that goes bad. If the user can't reverse out you're screwed.

Deb/RPM weren't designed for that kind of use-case. For their users "ssh and fix it" is fine. Not for the general public 'user' - who need a big UNDO button.

SUSE simulate transactions with btrfs snapshots but it's icky

@civodul it's controversial and there's a context ...

The Linux desktop use-base is around 1% of the market. The other 99% use PC's like they use phones.

That's what Snaps are about - apps like apps on phones. Unattended upgrades in geek speak.

Also AppStore not CLI.

Also, reality for end-users is issues around security which again phones have better approaches for.

Finally, commercial ISV's want a single package format for all: 1% of market but 5+ package types is madness for them

The #guix user and contributor survey has been up for a few days and we've had 541 full responses. Have you filled it out?

If you're a user or contributor, currently using Guix, or you used it previously. We would love your views and opinions.

https://guix.limesurvey.net/

We're going to keep it up until the end of the month (30th November). So you still have time!?

Submitted the Guix User and Contributor survey to @hkrn :

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42124192

Give it a vote or a comment to get some #hackersnews love for the #guile #guix and connected #linux #emacs #nix communities.

Comments about my dodgy sentence structure, and the incorrect spelling of virtualisation (no z!!) are in bounds!

We've launched the #guix user and contributor survey. Gathering feedback across the community.

https://guix.limesurvey.net/

The projects never done this before so it be great to get input from across the community! Both users and contributors.

There's also a section for people who previously used #guix to understand their experiences adopting Guix. So if you came from #nix #emacs #scheme #guile - whether just for a bit or a long time - we'd love to gather your experiences as well.

#foss #freesoftware #gnu #fsf #libre Hello! please help us promote the Guix user and contributor survey. We're gathering the views of anyone who's used #Guix or contributed to it:

https://guix.limesurvey.net

Please repost for visibility to all #linux #nix and #opensource #emacs #scheme #guile fans! (did I miss any?!)

If someone asked you how to get their first job in #software as a #developer what would you say? Non-traditional background but very bright, ideally #FOSS work. Any tips you'd give?

I said:

a. build #skills that others don't have, and that the industry wants. #ai #security #industry

b. get to know #people that are passionate about the same things you are. Go to meetups, conferences and talk to people

c. #reputation by giving #talks and build a #github portfolio

d. ask peeps for a job!

I've been using #virtiofs to access the host filesystem in my #guix #kvm #libvirt #VMs - it's very nice. I have it mount the directory automatically in my guix-system definition:

(file-system
(mount-point "/home/la/workspace")
(device "workspace")
(type "virtiofs")

Guix also supports the 9p filesystem and others.

In the conversation about #guix sustainability I've talked a few times about Clojure Together which I think is a great example of "making things happen" (originally by just one person Daniel Compton) in a small community. Clojure is a small community compared to Python/Rust or whatever - but this project has been great for the Clojure community - recognising, supporting and sustaining improvements. Could equally apply to #guile #scheme

https://www.clojuriststogether.org/news/applications-open-for-2025-long-term-funding/

@baleine @soupglasses

Guile is interpreted so the answer to the more general question - "do I have to make my config public" - is NO.

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#IfInterpreterIsGPL

@baleine @soupglasses

The original question was about whether users MUST make config "Free Software"

Guile says:

"Scheme level code written to be run by Guile (but not derived from Guile itself) is not restricted in any way, and may be published on any terms. We encourage authors to publish on Free terms."

https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Guile-License.html

Seems clear to me. There is no **requirement** on users to make their #guix config "Free Software" - users can choose what they want - freedom of choice.

This Tuesday @ekaitz_zarraga (sponsored by @nlnet ) will be talking about the mission to boot #riscv in #guix and it's importance for #trust and #security in #linux. Come along and learn about this interesting #architecture and some of the challenges of bootstrapping a #foss / #opensource platform. Details here:

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/PatchReviewSessions2024

Next Guix meet-up is next Wednesday (29th) - @daviwil will be giving a talk about how he manages his system configuration and development workflow.

If you want to ask David a question or register for the session get the details:

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/PatchReviewSessions2024

#guix #guile #scheme #lisp #systemcrafters

Video of the interview with #guix founder @civodul is available. A great chat about the #nix deployment model, his interested in #guile and #free software. Lots of interesting chat about motivation in #freesoftware, #gnu and #linux - as well as the Plan9-ification of Guix!!

https://youtu.be/339dRDf4c6E?si=u3pP_j_eg5PPi04y

The next online #Guix patch review hacking session is on Tuesday.

17:00 UTC; 18:00 London; 19:00 Paris; 13:00 London

We're going to try and do some pair/group huddling using Upterm. All the details are on the Wiki:

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/PatchReviewSessions2024

Come along if you want to review some patches, or if you want to hack - or if you just want to hangout with some other #guile, #guix, #linux, #lisp and #nix adjacent people!