Notices by AKingsbury (alexanderkingsbury@mastodon.social)

@mstrohm

"The Socialist Equality Party insists that one principle—human need—must in all circumstances take precedence over the wealth and profits of the super-rich."

Step 1; make a list of what constitutes "needs". Also, define "super-rich".

@breakthrough_news_archive

There really is no problem on earth that SOMEONE won't find a way to blame on capitalism. Fires? Capitalism. Disease? Must be caused by capitalism. Poverty? Capitalism, or course. Stubbed your toe this morning? CAPITALISM.

@grrlscientist

Seems like I'm gonna see this meme a lot for the next few days. Both statements within it are lies, of course, but that's nothing new.

@leean00 @grrlscientist

Yes, sadly, it seems very unpopular to be honest about #capitalism. Or #socialism, for that matter.

@ecosurrealism

"The Forest Service subsequently began a review of Nestlé’s permit, and in 2018 granted a new permit for up to five years."

"the order doesn’t cover three other boreholes that capture water"

"The company has for years had a federal “special-use” permit allowing it to use its pipeline and other water infrastructure in the national forest, paying an annual fee that as of last year was $1,950."

"Stealing"? Hmmmm.

@ecosurrealism

Sounds an awful lot like buying. Under terms I certainly don't like, but that's hardly an excuse to call it something it isn't.

@ecosurrealism

"well we call it stealing from the forest."

Do you think that using words in contrived, arcane ways helps you communicate in any meaningful way with other people? Do you think that helps convince people of your position?

@ecosurrealism

Meh. I've never found hate and "feelings in my bones" to be useful or productive.

@ecosurrealism

They're stealing water? Do you have a source on that?

@TheDialecticalCommunist

So...you would openly celebrate actual slavery?

@TheDialecticalCommunist

"The comic is getting at that the current conditions of wage slavery (which is slavery)"

Absolute nonsense. Go ahead; tell me, with a straight face, that a modern worker, who is entirely free to quit, is going through something even vaguely comparable to what this man endured:

https://vintagenewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/gordon-slave-whipped20peter-1-1-396x381.jpg

@lxo

"you could have chosen to discuss any of the many things I mentioned by itself, but you kept moving the goal post asking for more."

Absolutely false. I never asked for more, at all. I asked you to pick one issue to discuss. Just one.

@lxo

Yes, I understand the concept of summing things. I also understand that, if someone cannot manage to discuss any of those things by itself, they probably cannot say anything worthwhile about the aggregate.

@lxo

Yes, you've given many; I asked for a specific one, so that we can discuss it. If you can't manage to discuss a single issue, I don't imagine you can meaningfully discuss many at the same time.

@lxo

I'm aware of some things I consider harmful, but I am also not arrogant enough to imagine that that somehow makes them objectively harmful. So are you unable/unwilling to provide one specific example? Just one.

@lxo

Not really, no. You're pointing at several things; market caps, terms and conditions, opportunity cost of this versus that....which specific thing do you assert is a "huge objective downside"?

@lxo

If there are both objective and subjective terms, the aggregate is, by nature, subjective. When you ask about why a "huge objective downside" is hidden...do you have a specific example?

@lxo

There is no such thing as "subjective assessments matching reality". If there is something for it to match, it's objective, not subjective. What humans can and do value has no objective scale against which it can be measured.

@lxo

It can say all sorts of things about the population, but that's a different question. Whether or not something is a net positive to someone is subjective; just because YOU don't consider it a net positive is definitive only for you.

@lxo

I do say that they are voluntary, yes. There are many banks out there; you don't NEED to use this bank or that bank. And yes, I say they are a net positive according to many people; otherwise, they would not have them. You can call me "deluded" all you like.