Notices by Moffin'tosh (moffintosh@mastodon.cloud), page 5

@dcc @diresock @Coyote But do tell me who said "Our adoption of the term 'socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian socialism."

@dcc @diresock @Coyote Yeah, maybe don't post fake quotes
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hitler-nazis-capitalist-system

When you need your enemies to be spiritually evil for fun of it for your ideology to work...

@Omega_Variant @Humpleupagus @Big_Richard
> boujs make the workers pay for the state to enforce their rule

Yes

@Humpleupagus It is surplus, or else there would be no profit

@Humpleupagus It was stolen because during those unpaid hours the employee still produced surplus for the bouj. Simple as.
Labour power is rented by the hour, paid with a fraction of the exchange value of the output it makes.
Not paying this labour-power while still appropriating it's output is stealing

@Humpleupagus
> I rent a commodity for 8 hours, but I actually use it for 10. This is fair because if I didn't the market price would adjust, lowering the price per hour

@Humpleupagus
> unpaid work is fine akshually cuz the employers would just pay them less.

@Humpleupagus
> MF thinks the state is an autonomous actor

Libertarianism every goddamn time they gain executive power

‘Prison or bullet’: new Argentina government promises harsh response to protest | Argentina | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/17/argentina-president-javier-milei-security-guidelines-protests-currency-devaluation

@thendrix @Moon Or under capitalism. Ask no other than the Irish or the Indians.
Gommunism doesn't make extra potato grow per m² when you are stuck with a medival technology due to the precedent backwardness

@thendrix @Moon
> Capitalism works as it’s a distributed/decentralized market

Which caused famines in Ireland and India

> however what you kids fight against is heavy government regulation and chosen winners and losers

The king being dethroned by a new one from time to time doesn't make a republic.

> which works more like nationalization and centralized government like communism in practice.

It doesn't, for the simple reason that planned socialist economies don't care about profit

@thendrix @Moon C.O.P.E.

@thendrix @Moon
No argument detected

@thendrix @Moon
> I have no argument for I must cope

@thendrix @Moon
> Has no response to the indian and irish famines, no reply on the difference between market and planned economies
> No ur coping

What to say but

@Moon Yes

@Moon Hence one is against exploitation