Notices by Ovi (0v1@infosec.exchange)

@aral Aral, also I just want to add that I really appreciate you and your work. I agree on the fundimentals of your toot. The only thing I disagree on is the "all things in capitalism start as bad" notion. Wishing your a great day!

@aral I would argue that its not a case that they started bad, but a case that they started with the potential for good. There is such thing as ethical capitalism. To think that things start as bad imply they were started with wrong intentions. In many cases, things are started with good intentions.

@RD4Anarchy @aral People making money for food is part of capitalism.

@RD4Anarchy @aral Firstly, you are attacking me as if I am someone who supports capitalism. I do not, infact, I write extensively about this issues with capitalism. Secondly, I am not being forced to do anything. I live off the land, in a community,, eat the food I grow for myself -- non of which I paid for. I exchange trade with other people to aquire goods I need. Sometimes I make profit, sometimes I make a loss, but this is necessary for me to live. This has been the way for thousands of years, before the industrial complexes of the modern world. What's weird, is this trading for loss and profit, is a part of capitalism, that I deem as ethical.

I think you really ought to engage with people in a neutral manner if you truly wish to be able to tackle a matter effectively.

@RD4Anarchy @aral I also want to point out that Aral who posted this runs a non-profit organization. Non-profit organizations depend upon capitalism to exist. The whole concept of being able to take income to support society benefitting work depends on people having capital to give. I.e donations, grant money-- all of these concepts are predicated by capital. Are non-profits ethical? Yes they are. Are they part of capitalism, yes they are.