Embed this noticeGalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 23:11:49 JST
GalacticTurtleWhenever someone says something along the lines of "we need to make this [venue] more welcoming to [insert race here]" I do wonder what it is they come up with. Because outside of having a venue where the desired populations exist or expanding language options within the space, everything else I can think of would be based on stereotypes. Like if someone came up and asked me, "Hey Turtle, how do we make this event more welcoming to black people?" I'd just say, "I don't know, did you invite any?" 🤷♀️
@DoctorDee Indeed. And I do understand that back in the 70s and such a main purpose of the women's lands was to exist within this.... anti-capitalist, anti-industrial, live of the land framework. Alas, that's simply not a wise move to make for most people barring some level of apocalypse.
@DoctorDee From what I understand of the remaining women's lands (that define themselves as such) in the US are that they're in extremely rural areas (I know at least one is in Florida) where to participate you'd need to buy property on said land and that they're only for lesbians. And yes, the majority of women on these properties are older white women who have been there for some time.
So just from that, I'll offer some stereotypes that certainly ring true for me. The very concept of moving to rural Florida where this women's land and anyone that could be found in any direction are older white people is an absolute no. That goes against common sense. That's some "Get Out" movie material. I could be convinced to maybe spend a couple weeks down there as part of some larger event... but purchase property? Move my whole life? Nope. Does that show some prejudice on my part? Maybe. But it's true lol.
Then there's MFR which I've said I would be interested in participating in as a worker rather than to attend the actual programming. There's a whole brand of black women who are super into frolicking in nature, goddess whatever, magic vulvas, and spiritual healing. But I'm not about the hippie life (of course, no offense to those who are). I'm more interested in... networking (both career and social)... forming local chapters to help build a radfem infrastructure of sorts... and having debates about the types of topics you'd see on sites like Spinster. Don't need to go out into the woods for that.
The women's residences I do stay in are all in the city. They don't define themselves as "women's lands." They're not radfem aligned in any type of official decree. But they do serve women and they're located where the women and their jobs already are. They bar all men and don't feel bad for doing so. I don't think they're keeping tabs on diversity but the racial makeup of those places tends to be as diverse as the city itself. I'd say I hear Spanish being spoken just as much if not more than English in the common areas.
Back on the rural front, I spent a year living in rural Virginia. Associated myself with a black church that had a female preacher and a small congregation of women with one or two old men who would occasionally be shuffled in. Now, my feminist critique of Christianity could go on forever. Nonetheless in that little chapel, some days we'd spend a whole extra hour after the sermon just talking with each other, brainstorming community events, venting about whatever, and (most notably) prioritizing ourselves and our own security above getting involved with men. There were a few women my age at that church but most were middle aged or older. Never married. They ran salons and restaurants or worked at a nearby university.
So if anything I've seen that the spaces many women might be looking for might not exist in a place they might think to look. On the flip side, seeing radfems struggle with even creating these spaces in a theoretical sense is rather unfortunate and I think gets bogged down by things that don't actually matter that much.
@Mynona@DoctorDee Barring a retirement pension, a trust fund, or a very benevolent individual, you’ll still be hustlegrinding to pay the mortgage and other living expenses. Your options for doing so will just be limited to small town USA. To my knowledge, none of these current lands are self sustaining.
@HebrideanHecate On my friend's 21st birthday, I had a sip of whatever she was having. All were very gross save for a Moscow Mule that tasted like Sprite until I took a big sip and it didn't. The special cup it came in was nice though. That was my one wild night takeaway. XD
My sister is forever disappointed I haven't given wine a chance but also insists that there are very fruity drinks that make it so I can't taste the alcohol. So the question remains why I'd go out of my way to drink something that comes with side effects? Because if you're clearly not there for the taste I'm assuming you're there for the side effects. I can get a fruity drink anywhere.
My parents insist that mature people drink not to get drunk but to socialize and relax. Yet I'm not sure what alcohol has to do with socializing and relaxing unless we're talking about the steps on the road to being drunk as alcohol, reportedly, makes people feel outgoing. So I'm left to conclude that a large percentage of the population has some form of social anxiety.
@Marshall I'll always remember a party I went to in high school where a classmate of mine came up to me and asked why I wasn't drinking. I said I didn't want to. She then asked me how I was going to have fun if I wasn't drunk. We'd been going to school together since we were four years old and I'm supposed to believe suddenly we need to add alcohol to our engagements for it to be fun? Guess I didn't get the memo. XD
But even with this pretty short video, there are so many red flags and question marks and cognitive foolery I don't even know where to start with a critique. 🙃
The "fertility industry" at large, frankly, gives me super bad vibes.
@Gelatinousrube Ha! Amusing but I feel like what she's talking about is actually some sort of emerging trend these days. Probably not for the mega SJWs but for my peer group who are all generally (classic) liberals and went to very posh schools. They're marrying traditionally-ish minded guys who are career military, small business owners, or are in the trades. Definitely not as much Wall Street as I would've expected.
They did all begin to cohabitate with these guys prior to marriage though which is still a concept that makes my family look for the nearest fainting couch.