@phaedral I just don't think it's helpful to get into a "who saw it was fascism first" pissing match out here; I'm 47 years old, and I was at both Seattle and Toronto. 10 years ago is when I started using the term "Weimar America" to describe how liberalism would fold into fascism before they'd agree to share/embrace antifascism. Who really cares? Yet, this seems to be a hobby on the left and I'd just rather not participate or waste my time reading about it in my replies.