@defcon201 @alec @futurebird well it was a computer term that leaked into tech people jargon from people upset at IBM sales practices so you're right it's not really hacker term like I said. But it's been a common term for decades now, the dislike because the crypto community picked it up seems like a you thing.

Incidentally re crypto, I still have my defcon CD with the song "Bitcoin Baron" on it. https://defcon.org/html/defcon-21/dc-21-soundtrack.html