@drewdevault I believe the group of feminists that want a total exclusion of men from the feminist movement is a minority. They have their reasons and I really believe that arguing their way is counter productive.
Ultimately as a man who cares about these issues I think the best course of action is to focus on interacting with the women who do see that men are needed. And I do believe men are needed, especially when it comes to interacting with other men who's still in denial.