@itzpaquet @condret I don't think I am politically motivated here, I just really disagree based on looking at how proprietary vs open projects in software and some other areas play out. investors, money multiplier from banks doing business loans, drive from competition and only one winner, enables big spikes in productivity. The Soviet Union accomplished a lot but it was a contradiction of compromises that internally still resembled market economics in a lot of ways and I think their primary motivator was competition with capitalists. If they won they would still be production powerhouses but I am not sure they would be innovation powerhouses. You look at how communists sometimes argue about capitalism and you can see the open disdain for the form of innovation capitalism takes, how it is wasteful and produces 100 of the same thing. they think there should be one organized effort per goal. I don't think that actually produces the best result. This is just my opinion, I could be totally wrong about this.