@crafti not really, the problem is that often expect to be serviced for free, being spoiled by proprietary stuff that spoils them in exchange for ad revenue, they want same service in exchange for nothing and refuse to lower their quality standards, the want solutions to unknown problems but don't even provide constructive suggestions. And people who advocate for normies either propose and defend nonsensical changes that literally no one including normies cares about or propose features that were made for sole purpose of milking people more and more.