@shibao @p @shedinja @mmmfeet @mischievoustomato
So /pol/ and /k/ are just two retarded extremes, but on opposite sides? I can get behind that; I agree.

The Ukraine war is much more complicated than "Putler bad" or "Russia just wants to protect its borders". But although we shouldn't understand it as strictly binary "Good vs Evil", whether we should let them take it or not is quite binary, although our methods to do so aren't

Unless the west starts becoming okay with open imperialist expansion to take new land, we must do everything we can to stop nations that are, becacause Ukraine's land will still be there long after me, you, and Putin are dead.