@JoshuaSlocum @charlie_root @p @mangeurdenuage @mischievoustomato "Embrace the healing power of 'and'."
A "cloud" has both real technical meaning as I've outlined and inevitably became a marketing term with limited to no meaning as you point out. I expect my interlocutors to understand this sort of thing, and @p for one doesn't disappoint.
(Check out his also tutorial https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/fse-vs-fbi.html and https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/about-fedilist.html as I'm reading as time allows. Although we are talking past each other, but not because I didn't read the thread, I just don't agree with some points made in it. Even the "who owns it is not a major difference" one he just emphasized.)
And here you invoke an also old maxim about data storage, one copy means zero, two copies means one...." Some of us were lucky enough to learn this when we discovered the -rf flags to rm (UNIX™ remove files, with the recursive and force flags, the latter meaning just do it, don't complain). Normies ... are they any worse than us until they too get burned??