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- Embed this notice@Suiseiseki there aren't any good freedom respecting chat protocols by your definition
> There are many fully free chat protocols with free clients and servers - for example IRC and XMPP.
thtey dont have even a fraction of the featureset, irc is too limited and complicated for your average person, xmpp doesn't have good clients outside of android (no dino and gajim are not)
> Freedoms 1 & 3 don't matter because the software is unverifiable?
yes because they can justt give you fake misleading code