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@49016 @sophie sadly, there's kinda no good/clearly superior alternatives.
1) XMPP has too many e2ee methods, and no client supports all of the recent ones even;
2) MUCs in XMPPs require keeping a connection active, which makes it not-better than irc;
3) there are some IMs with good e2ee, like signal, but they require a phone number to use them, which is Not Great for some
4) discord is borderline spyware, and i'd expect things to get worse as they're nearing IPO/after it
5) IRC - to be usable at all - requires having an always-on computer somewhere, to act as a bouncer/proxy. And there's no e2ee standard that's actually adopted by a significant portion of clients.
6) some of the IMs requiring a phone number like to tout how private/secure they are, when in reality they're not

:blobcatshrug: the state of IMs is - generally - sad