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    sj_zero (sj_zero@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Monday, 07-Apr-2025 21:51:17 JSTsj_zerosj_zero
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    • clacke
    • clacke@libranet.de is my main
    You mean whether one wants to use their speech to express their personal opinions about an individual's personal choices in a private conversation or to publicly support and organization whose goal is the genocide of the Jews.

    The discussion here is about a Palestinian who was deported for supporting Hamas under a law which says it's illegal to support terrorist organizations on a student visa. Canada has a law, most European countries have the same law. This isn't new.

    You know, the website you're on is hosted in Germany. Supporting Hamas is fully illegal there too. Are you sure you want to support a regional authority which committed numerous acts of terrorism? You'll get to find out exactly how much free speech there is in Germany if you're not careful.

    Germany can and does arrest people for social media posts: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/berlin-police-arrest-pro-palestinian-woman-for-writing-from-the-river-to-the-sea-on-social-media/3165593?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    In fact, Germany deported a bunch of people for the exact same thing.

    https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/four-foreign-activists-face-deportation-from-germany-after-berlin-university-sit-in

    There has also been discussion in the UK of doing the same thing under similar laws.

    I'd also like you to consider that there are two examples of heinous invasions by horrible states recently -- if Russians were going out to different countries to protest against Ukraine's handling of the war in Ukraine, would you be opposed to deporting them? I'd be perfectly OK with sending them back to Russia if they love it there so much. If you're here on a student visa, you should be studying and not protesting. Ironically, Russia's was far less of a war crime than that of Hamas, but nobody seems to care about the red line war crimes Hamas has committed and continues to commit by holding civilian hostages.

    If you think that supporting a terrorist organization in public on a student visa is actually better than expressing sincere concern to ostensibly a friend in private, then I think you need to reconsider your moral frameworks.
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      Four foreign activists face deportation after Berlin university sit-in
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      Two Irish and one Polish national, and a US citizen, have appealed against an order asking them to leave Germany over their participation in a pro-Palestinian university protest.
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