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@charliebrownau @PhenomX6 I agree completely, but personally, I feel completely forced into using Discord, both by IRL friends and online friends. There are a few people with whom I’d lose contact completely if I stopped using Discord. I only have two friends whom I convinced to install Mumble, and even they usually prefer to use Discord for VC (even though Mumble has lower-latency and better sound quality). Not to mention that there’s no way in hell I could get them on IRC/XMPP.

The reality I’ve had to accept over the years is that normies don’t give a fuck about any of the things you mentioned, hell, even people with significant technical knowledge don’t always care. If we want people to use non-spyware open-source solutions, we have to make them just as convenient as Discord.

I think Matrix got pretty close to this goal, while I have my issues with how bloated it is, it’s also a huge improvement from Discord.