@s8n @BlinkRape @mint @ryo what sjw does at minimum. I don't know how much of his cosing he does but I've seen his server and I know he runs his own email services and I would assume other things as well. Having your own servers and reducing how many people touch your information/have back door access I would assume. I mean u can definitely use cloud storage but I can't imagine u can call that proper info sec if you don't keep as much of it to yourself as you can handle. I would expect for 500 a month you could easily self host most everything with the technical know how but if you outsourcing services that seems unrealistic. Does that hit the mark¿