@vxn @inyanblood Devuan appears to inherit the same problems as Debian, as it's Debian with some patches to a bunch of packages to allow them to work without systemd.

Currently it seems Devuan uses the free old version of the installer (the one without proprietary software and that doesn't install proprietary software without you confirming), but I suspect that Devuan will inherit Debian's proprietary installer once they get around to supporting an installer for newer releases.