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@inthehands @paul_ipv6 there is some movement happening, though, my very boring liberal father in law went from "why are you so worried, it's just four years" to "I'm not sure you should travel internationally, do you have lawyers on call, I'm very worried" within 2 months. And I'm pretty sure lots of people are going through that right now, and gracefully accepting them into the fold will be key for any left alliance to succeed in stopping fascism.

That being said, "business leaders" are very different from "boring liberal"