@SuperLutheran I haven't listened yet, but what are your thoughts on the idea of *Proxy Mortality* as it relates to this (I had to look this term up, so maybe there's a better one)? While I've no doubt there are people who hold fast to the church's official position on matters of the marital bed, I think it's known that the rebellious streak in many of us will push some boundaries. It's far better to make the rule breaking go into a safe place than set your hard-line where the first violation is outright deviancy. Of course this is all under the assumption that people should control their sexual appetite for their spiritual benefit. While I do agree that it ought to be tempered, lest the flesh lead the mind and soul away from God, it should be allowed to properly thrive in a healthy marriage.