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@TriptychTwinsRidesAgain Oh, and also, have you seen the effigy on a tomb by Lady somebody or other of her son? Dammit, I have a rubbish memory these days, I can see the bloody thing in my mind's eye, but I can't remember her name at the moment. Apparently she had "taken up sculpture" and made this.

I was 😲 over it, the thing is astounding! She had no formal training either.

Got it! It's at Haddon, by Lady Violet Lindsay, (Duchess of Rutland) hang on until I find a piccy...

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