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> When population reaches a certain density, people stop having independent farms and towns and look at larger settlements. That's how you get cities.

the hell

How cities happened was "We need a wall to retreat behind".

> I don't think they are a regulatory creation, or at least were originally. They arise naturally but that does not make them good.

Nobody says they were. I said the attempt at mass social planning is what pushed people off farms and into cities.