@MCMLXVIIOTG @graf Ok, so, Ukraine wanted to break away from them. I'm not sure what you're getting at. You saying, because they wanted independence (CIA or otherwise) they deserved to be attack? They need to sue for peace?

I'm not being a dick, I am trying to get "it".

What about Holodomor? Russification? I mean, you go back far enough, everyone is doing tit-for-tat.