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@tek it is less about good news and more about how when we are basically trying to set up a project, we think of only the packages to get us started, each of them with their pip install commands and then we have one "system" for one "project". i know we are not developers but pretend ones knowing more scripting and automation than good design or environment maintainability.
To me, now I feel like I an clinging to IE browser and you are telling me about Firefox and Brave, but in py installer ctxt