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    Simon Repp (freebliss@post.lurk.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 02:08:01 JSTSimon ReppSimon Repp
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    • Ben Pate 🤘🏻

    @benpate I highly recommend Opus these days because it offers the best compression/quality ratio at pretty much all bitrates¹ ², and at the same time it's also supported in almost all browsers.

    Exceptions are: IE (<0.5% market share) with no support at all, and Safari/iOS up to 17.3 (~4.5% market share) only supports opus in a CAF container, hence a fallback is required for these.

    Faircamp currently provides streaming assets as Opus 96 kbit/s [-codec:a libopus -b:a 96k] with MP3 VBR V5 (120-150kbit/s) [-codec:a libmp3lame -qscale:a 5] as a fallback, respectively as Opus 48kbit/s [-codec:a libopus -b:a 48k] and MP3 VBR V7 (80-120kbit/s) [-codec:a libmp3lame -qscale:a 7] with the "frugal" option.

    As the market share for iOS17.3 shrinks further I'll see if opus-only (in a WEBM container) is supported everywhere and go that road eventually.

    ¹ "In listening tests around 64 kbit/s, Opus shows superior quality compared to HE-AAC codecs (...) In listening tests around 96 kbit/s, Opus shows slightly superior quality compared to AAC and significantly better quality compared to Vorbis and MP3." – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_(audio_format)#Quality_comparison_and_low-latency_performance

    ² https://opus-codec.org/comparison/ has some studies linked like e.g. https://listening-test.coresv.net/results.htm - note that in the meantime opus 1.1 supposedly increased quality even further, this is not yet reflected in these tests.

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      Opus (audio format)
      Opus is a lossy audio coding format developed by the Xiph.Org Foundation and standardized by the Internet Engineering Task Force, designed to efficiently code speech and general audio in a single format, while remaining low-latency enough for real-time interactive communication and low-complexity enough for low-end embedded processors. Opus replaces both Vorbis and Speex for new applications, and several blind listening tests have ranked it higher-quality than any other standard audio format at any given bitrate until transparency is reached, including MP3, AAC, and HE-AAC. Opus combines the speech-oriented LPC-based SILK algorithm and the lower-latency MDCT-based CELT algorithm, switching between or combining them as needed for maximal efficiency. Bitrate, audio bandwidth, complexity, and algorithm can all be adjusted seamlessly in each frame. Opus has the low algorithmic delay (26.5 ms by default) necessary for use as part of a real-time communication link, networked music performances, and live lip sync; by trading off quality or bitrate, the delay can be reduced down to 5 ms. Its delay is exceptionally low compared to competing codecs, which require well over 100...

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      Results of the public multiformat listening test (July 2014)
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