@taatm @mekkaokereke That's what I was thinking. They kind of get more of a chance to grow out of the ideas they form as teens, when they eventually form long term relationships with women. Which nerds can do too of course and which some jocks fail to do. It's that growing out of it thing that's key I think. So many misogynistic attitudes of adult men sound so juvenile. Sound like the ideas of boys who haven't learned better by experience of the real world.