@judgedread @Robert_Edwardly The hard-core moobment guys are often great guys individually, but they have "generational defeat" baked into their thinking. Not a generational movement, as they might talk about, not "there is never an end to struggle," not the Christian declaration "in the world, not of it," but rather "we are hated and must live underground." It's a self-marginalizing thought pattern

Which is how they are so susceptible to parasites from that world