@KeepTakingTheSoma The primary purpose of punishment is deterrence. Juries know this, and the reason we get so many outrageous civil lawsuit settlements in America is because the low intelligence juries are told by the demagogic attorneys to "send a message to all greedy corporations" by rewarding the highest amount possible. Restorative justice is non-existent, and not a function of the state (nor has it ever been), even juries see punishment as future deterrents. The UK is failed state.