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@Radical_EgoCom @osmani You keep stating the same thing, when there are no examples for that mechanism working, but counterexamples where decarbonization was achieved without social upheaval.

I think you can (and must) limit capitalist incentives, but I don't think you have to go all the way to absolute socialism or communism. I don't think that the latter are harmful per se, but I am sure that poverty is an absolute obstacle for any way forward.