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   𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 06:34:25 JST 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧

   • Skull-man(🇨🇺🇨🇦)
   • Svante

   @Ardubal @osmani

   I've already illustrated how stopping capitalism does have to do with stopping climate change. Capitalism makes actions that are harmful to the environment profitable, and since capitalism prioritizes profit over everything else, it leaves little to no incentive to protect the environment. That is why replacing capitalism with socialism, a system of people (and their environment) over profit, is necessary to stop climate change.

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     𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 06:52:42 JST 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧

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     • Skull-man(🇨🇺🇨🇦)
     • Svante

     @Ardubal @osmani

     "...poverty is an absolute obstacle for any way forward."

     What poverty?

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     Svante (ardubal@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 06:52:43 JST Svante

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     • Skull-man(🇨🇺🇨🇦)

     @Radical_EgoCom @osmani You keep stating the same thing, when there are no examples for that mechanism working, but counterexamples where decarbonization was achieved without social upheaval.

     I think you can (and must) limit capitalist incentives, but I don't think you have to go all the way to absolute socialism or communism. I don't think that the latter are harmful per se, but I am sure that poverty is an absolute obstacle for any way forward.