@dougiec3 What they said about the size of speaker in TVs is so very accurate. I used to have a surround system on my old school TV, but when that was down for a while, I had no trouble with the TV's built in speakers (besides some sources being unvailbe due to how my system was set up, and a whole unit was out for repair).
The flat TV I have now? I didn't plan on a soundbar, I have 3D headphones for movies... but the speakers on this TV were so tinny and flat they were useless!