@sebastian @LaNaehForaday @gerrymcgovern My point here is that humans *are* part of nature, and through most of human existence, our presence enriched local ecosystems. It's not humans that are the problem; it's a culture that sees itself as alienated from nature, that has existed for only centuries out of hundreds of thousands of years of human existence.
The way we *want* to live is more sustainable than the way we are compelled to live.
https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-myth-of-a-wilderness-without-humans/