@JohnConway @anathema Yeah. That's why I made that post like "We should make nature is warcels survive in the wild for a month like that fullmetal alchemist episode." I think actual experience with nature removes that view pretty quick when you realise that nature is both an beautiful exercise of will, and incredibly serene because you're a part of something so much greater than yourself and you fall into it perfectly. Death and suffering are much more terrifying when you're cut off from the greater picture, but immersed in it, it's completely different