@skylar @SuperSnekFriend @Echigo @bleedingphoenix Think of it this way, when a bunch of English, Dutch, Germans, Irish, Italians, and Poles, etc., come to settle in America they don't encounter a new and foreign civilization to theirs, it's the same own they're from broadly speaking. They do arrive in a foreign country and culture to theirs, but they don't end up in a place like Saudi Arabia with its Islamic civilizational values that have no common source with Europe.