@agaperealm @1031 @gorskon It's not a 'death vax'. The covid vaccine has saved tens of millions of lives. And I've seen those charts about polio / smallpox before too --- all misleading. Especially given the typhoid fever outbreak right by one of my family members, this week, they aren't going to wash here.

Smallpox is eradicated, thanks to the vaccine campaign. The graph axes in your graph completely miss this.

Generally: those graphs are what you'd see if you were totally ignorant of what was going to happen when herd immunity level was reached with vaccines. In all cases the chart ends years before the current era.
In the case of measles and smallpox the rate went very low (due to increase in non-vaccination public health measures) and then to *0* due to a successful vaccine campaign

And is only returning to a non-0 value because of people like RFKJ. And primarily among areas that are unvaxxed, again thanks to people like RFKJ, exposing the rest of us to measles

> I would be open to data showing they've had any efficacy at all.

Like fuck you are. Otherwise you would be actually reading @gorskon or @MoriartyLab or something instead of whatever meme farm you got that from. And you certainly wouldn't be wasting my time with your antivax nonsense.

This is the 2022 efficiency chart for the covid vaccine in canada:
https://x.com/MoriartyLab/status/1584982459028242432
https://x.com/MoriartyLab/status/1583149814887288832
https://x.com/MoriartyLab/status/1583149330474467330

but generally:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11399437/pdf/41541_2024_Article_951.pdf

For smallpox you can see clearly on the following chart where the vaccination campaign hit its stride. You don't know anyone who has smallpox right now *because of vaccines*. You can actually read the account of the people who were involved in the eradication of smallpox *with vaccines*. Because that's how they did it.