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@lxo That’s true and that has been voiced many time by US and German leaders - not in a rather sinister wording of “endless war” but in a much more reasonable-sounding wording of “not letting Ukraine lose but also not letting Putin lose too dramatically”. The idea behind the latter is that if he loses, he will start a world nuclear war or something. I think it’s a mistake that is only driven by continued Western naivety about Putin willing to agreeing to some kind of “peace plan” in long term, which he is not and he says that quite clearly. The side effect is also that thousands of people will die on both side before he eventually loses anyway.