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@fiore @trans_caracal @anathema @shroomie i mean orthodox christians and lutherans do also think it is really the body of christ, they just dont like the particular way transubstantiation describes it.

anglicans generically say “real presence of christ in the eucharist” in a way that is deliberately ambiguous and makes room for lower views. my priest has said “we dont use [transubstantiation] in the episcopal church, but it is what i believe happens”