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@ekis You were the one putting words to my mouth and derailing discussion with irrelevant stuff.

Yes, collective defence should be implemented at the level of EU, with contingency plans for Baltic and Nordic unions if needed.

I have currently quite low patience of folks that write irrelevant stuff or come to derail discussions, especially when they put words on my mouth or claim I can't face reality, when the whole point is very much connected to the changing realities in the ground.

If you can't take discussion where people talk directly and call spade a spade, it is you who should grow up and not start whining after trying to derail the discussion with totally irrelevant stuff.