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@ekis Don't put words on my mouth and don't act like some idiot if you ain't one.

Russia must be driven out of the sovereign territory of Ukraine, that is the win condition, and that is doable by European productive power if there is will.

Russia needs to pay full reparations to Ukraine for any sanctions to be lifted.

I am not overestimating any ecosystem but fail to see wtf is your point here, because ecosystem unpredictability do not remove to need to deal with this genocidal fascist empire doing war of destruction in our neighborhood.

Last time I checked China and Iran did not have territorial ambitions and wars of genocidal conquest in Europe, and I fail to see why you are bringing up these totally irrelevant points, wasting everyone's time.