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@sjvn It's also an "official" definition we should insist gets a) actually defined, b) stronger.

I'm honestly a bit disappointed in OSI and have ... suspicions.

You're write-up is much better than mine, but I think "idealists" as a term already implies a judgment of the position. Given that the group includes a lead from *AWS*, I think that's a pretty grounded-in-the-industry take on it too.

https://opensourcerer.eu/osaid-v1-0-notes/