@ink @lanodan I've felt for a long time like the only way that these "re-decentralization" projects could ever have any hope of producing anything useful is if they began at Layer 1. anything higher up is just trying to slap a bunch of complicated protocols on top of a network that is fundamentally not designed to work that way, which effectively creates a lot of additional problems to solve that shouldn't exist in the first place, and that's on top of P2P already being a really difficult problem to solve.

but obviously the problem with this is that you can't just start setting up networking infrastructure in the field that will be reliable without getting funding and government contracts and shit, otherwise you're just relying on a bunch of volunteers who will lose interest in these projects when there is inevitably nothing happening on the networks other than circlejerking over the technology itself.

now yuo see this is why the entire premise is flawed in the first place. there are no technological fixes for the problems the internet has with centralized power because these are ultimately political problems.