@yockeypuck But there are also people who like how they feel when they are out of control. Those are the sorts that first started causing the problems for liberalism as a general rule. They *might* be evil, or just unfixably fucked up.

We used to just go "eh, not my problem" and toss them in a mental hospital. You had some doctors that would try to cure them and bla bla, but then you got people who were DYING FOR FAIRNESS and thought it was UNFAIR that dangerous people that society couldn't fix were locked away.