@RustyCrab I really don't think it attracts the kind of people who are likely to become good in general. my impression is also that the community is dominated by inexperienced dabblers

fucking up is an important part of growing and learning as an engineer and people who are afraid of fucking up are probably not going to grow. of course you don't want your fuckups to be extremely costly in an objective sense but the occasional gut punches of realizing you did something retarded, on a personal level, are a requirement