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@domi @pj @lanodan i guess my main issue with alpine is that it has some neat components (like there is a reason i adopted apk-tools and stuff) but in the end it does not end up going the extra mile to give things real polish

by making the base system bare, you miss out on guaranteeing things (so e.g. session bus is still legacy stuff via dbus-launch, you have no usersrvs so no supervised pipewire ootb, etc.)

and the maintainer tooling could be a whole lot better even as a pile of shellscripts