@kravietz The 'west' still thinks they can work out a deal with Putin and everything will just be 'back to normal'. It's not going to happen. The only way forward is hitting Russia very hard where it hurts. The centre of Moscow, hitting everything that has a direct or indirect impact on the political and military powers. If civilians get hit, unfortunate collateral damage, but that will bring the message home. (I hope). Just flatten the centre of Moscow.