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@p @NonPlayableClown @mischievoustomato @Hyperhidrosis @cvnt the discussion has shifted from definitions of fascism so yeah i'm done too. wikipedia is not something i trust for important things, ive personally seen misleading framing and gaslighting on that platform that favor the corporatist agenda. that was before i discovered the plethora of things researchers have documented. its a weaponized platform. i'm open to the idea the UN was founded for maligned purposes many decades ago, however today i don't see the UN as the elephant in the room with regard to maligned conduct, quite the opposite. i see the corporate fascists, their money printing enablers, and weapon peddling enforcers, as the much bigger threats. if by going after those things i happen to dent the worst elements of the UN, i wont lose sleep over that.

it sounds like we are both being polite.