@thomasfuchs Sure, but I mean there's what happens and what he's saying. Yeah, it may go the way of a managed democracy before going directly into authoritarianism, but I don't think that's what he's saying on stage there.
I realize I'm splitting hairs at this point, though, like they're both objectively awful, and anyone who interprets what he said as EITHER of these things and thinks "now there's a guy I'd give my last useful vote to" is a dangerous idiot.