@KarlDahl @catmanmancat @PraxisOfEvil @WhiteApe This is kind of what I've been saying. If you believe that a politician will never do anything for you in this system then yeah, don't vote.

However, this system does do things for groups of people that aren't elites. So the question to me then is: how do I get to be a group that the system will do things for?

And maybe the answer is "lol, you can't"