@dcc @gabriel
> Falling means you should give up?

If you are trying to break a rock with your forehead... then I hope you will eventually give up on that approach. I see many do not.

> What does that have to do with improving your health?

Guess you've never had a real health struggle huh? When you deal with something that, wisdom makes worse, and medicine makes worse, and your efforts are fruitless... it means the problem is too much for you.

And, I see lots of people, go their whole life vainly struggling with such things. Was that Jesus' plan for them? Was that Salvation, and life more abundantly? Pff, NO! That is just what it looks like to live independent from Jesus... as most Christians do.

> Either you believe or you don't, improving your body does not "separate" you from Jesus it just does not work that way.

That is a strange way to contextualize what I am saying. But, you seem to fear what I truly mean, so I suppose this sort of irrational response is to be expected.

You get to choose what relationship you'll have with Jesus. He wont stop you from solving your own problems. It is just a vain way to live.