@Magooish @AeonCypher @seachanger Making allies is not about making friends, but finding commonality in goals, so we can work together as comrades.
Your goal seems to be "don't cut ties with liberals, since it's complicated". Been there, done that, it's not a goal I find worth pursuing, so no allyship can be found here.
But good luck dismissing the experience and frustration of past allies into yet one more chance.
I guess you'll go alone on this one, this time.